Should You Talk to Indians?

Executive Summary

• Indians do not interact or converse the same way or with the same intentions as domestic US IT workers.
• We cover what happens in conversations with Indians.

Introduction

• Indians are immigrating to the US and other white/European-based countries in massive numbers.
• Most Americans initially treated Indians as if they were American in culture without considering the cultural differences of Indians.
• In this article, we will cover how Indians use language differently, how it is always a disadvantage for non-Indians, and how speaking with Indians is a losing proposition.

Understanding American Culture and How it Relates to Conversations

• American culture uses conversation, primarily at least, to share ideas and instruct when one person is higher in the hierarchy. That is, conversing is primarily about sharing information.
• Indians do not follow this approach when conversing — and this is particularly true when an Indian is dealing with a non-Indian.

Cheating or Taking from Non-Indians

Indians generally view domestic US IT workers as lacking “survival skills.” India is a brutal place to live — and it creates a highly suspicious and grasping culture. Most Indians are incredibly comfortable with theft and labor exploitation. That is how things are in India, and there is little discussion of reform. Indians’ culture is only to maximize their exploitation of an existing system.

Understanding The Objective of Interaction From the Perspective Of Indians

When Indians interact with domestic US IT workers, they primarily see it as a way to take something from domestic US IT workers. For example, one technique that Indians use is to “befriend” non-Indian coworkers and then figure out what they do. Then, spread the idea within the company that the ” friend ” job could be done better by someone else — and that someone else is always an Indian that they know. Some people will tell me that while they have problems with Indian companies or Indians due to ethics, they have good “Indian friends.” That is not possible. A person has Indian friends to the degree that the non-Indian has something of value that the Indian wants to take. The reality is that it is not possible to be friends with an Indian in the sense that an American is friends with another American.

How I Changed My Modality of Behavior With Indians

After several decades of interacting with Indians due to my work in the IT industry, I stopped speaking to Indians because of my new understanding of how Indians operate. Once I went back and reviewed my interactions with Indians, I found that I was not conversing with them.

I found instead, I was being “probed” for information that the Indian could use against me at some point in the future. What is referred to as sociopathy in a non-Indian population is standard in the Indian population. This sociopathy is referred to as “survival skills” in India. In India, people who don’t act as sociopaths are said to lack “survival skills.”

This is why Indians present such an appealing demeanor in the beginning. The point is to get the target to lower their guard so the maximal amount of information can be extracted as the target is not yet apprised of the Indian’s plans.

Indian Conversations as a Type of Espionage

Much of the intent of Indians is to use conversation to gather information — that is then used against the provider of the information. This means that conversations with Indians are not like conversations with other people. And it means that nearly every time a non-Indian person speaks with an Indian, they communicate information that the Indian plans to use against that person.

Analyzing The Indian Interview

One trick Indians perform in IT is to interview people doing jobs in companies. After they have learned what they do, they set up some ridiculous and irrelevant deadlines that the person cannot meet; they then undermine the person to their boss and state that they are doing a bad job and know someone (always an Indian) who can do that job “much better.” The person’s actual performance is irrelevant. The objective of the Indians is to remove as many people as possible from jobs and to replace them with Indians that they know. There is no concept in Indian culture that this is unethical because there is no concept of ethics as we know them in countries that are part of Western civilization. India is not part of Western civilization. In India, you do whatever you need to do to survive and prosper, and if someone allows you to scam them, then they essentially deserve it by allowing it to happen to them. This is why I find Westerners who praise Hinduism as a good religion so ridiculous. India is a cesspool ethically, so how can anyone praise Hinduism when the outcomes of the largest Hindu country are so abysmal?

Once again, the conversations are enjoyable. The Indians hide their intent until they can ambush the person they are extracting information from. The outcomes are so terrible in Indian behavior that the main objective in the life of any Indian in India is to move to a white-originated country to take advantage of the people who are not familiar with Indian culture. Remember also that conversing with Indians is a significant boost for their ego. Remember that the number one accomplishment that any Indian you meet is not that they were able to get out of India and immigrate to a white-originated country to have a life that they never could have had in India.

As a white person, they want to brag to other Indians about how they know them, how they have taken advantage of them, and how they can be taken advantage of in the future. However, for other people, interacting with Indians is essentially slumming, which is why I recommend minimal interaction with Indians.

Unfortunately, there are now so many Indians in many white-collar professions in the US that having no interaction with Indians is not possible. However, one should look at every Indian as an enemy who is trying to engage in some scam to worsen the condition of the person they are interacting with.

Observations from Working With Indians

These are some of the things we have noticed when interacting with Indians — primarily because of our work in the IT field, which has a high percentage of Indians.

Observation #1: Indians Are Not Potential Customers, They Are Speaking to You to Scam You

Indians are not potential customers. Indians will contact us, but it does not lead to buying research.

• Indians are often very friendly (the information-gathering stage) but do not follow through on what they say they will do. Indians will effortlessly lie about how they will never do something.
• Indians are unreliable, and the information they provide to you has little meaning.
• Indians are very comfortable lying and doing it like fish and drinking water. For example, in recruiting, they will take a resume from a US domestic IT worker, place an Indian name on it, and then obtain a higher margin by faking the background of the white resource. The intent in speaking with the white resource is to obtain their resume, which they can use to market an Indian. We cover in the article Why Dealing with Indian Recruiters is Futile and Pointless for Domestic Workers.
• Indians want to buy from Indians, not from whites.

Remember, Indians are interacting with you to try to undermine you in some way. For years, I worked as an IT contractor. However, in all of those years, I was never placed on a project by an Indian recruiter. However, the vast majority of emails I have received in my life from recruiters have been from Indian recruiters. Even years after I stopped doing IT contracting, nearly all the emails I get from recruiters are from Indian recruiters. If I had never received an email from an Indian recruiter it would have made zero difference in the projects I received. All interaction with Indian recruiters has been wasted.

Observation #2: India’s Deceptive Back Story About its Inability to Make Any Social Progress

Indians have a high class, caste, and discriminatory racial history. Through false education in India, which deliberately blames Europeans, Indians have been taught that most of the problems of India have nothing to do with India but are due to the British colonialization of the country. The false thing about this is that India accomplished very little before the British arrived and transferred a large amount of intellectual property and technology to India. One of the worst things that England ever did (for the rest of the world) was teach Indians English.

India’s Failure Since “Independence”

India has had 70 years (in a way, it’s longer than 70 years, as the British began pulling out of many parts of India in the 1920s) since the “official” end of British colonialization. During this time, India has done virtually nothing except increase their population from 350 million to 1.5 billion, creating an ever more desperate situation for themselves. India is a society where essentially everyone is scamming everyone else.

As for legal progress, there is no functioning legal system in India, and judges are routinely bribed. Indian elites, which promised great progress to their citizens in support of independence, had the same sedition laws on the books that the British placed there.

Why?

Because the Indian elites preferred to use the sedition laws against the larger Indian population, as a consequence, Indians had zero experience in a free society or any understanding or appreciation of freedom of speech.

Most Indians consider India hopeless — and want to leave as soon as they can. Their immigration brings Indian dysfunction and scamming to other countries.

In India, everything is highly tribal, and they have brought this pattern of behavior with them from India to the European-based countries where they immigrated. Most US domestic IT workers do not know this cultural background and what they are dealing with, and they welcome Indians with open arms. It is critical not to do this and understand what you are dealing with when interacting with an Indian.

Observation #3: Indians Routinely Ask for Things for Free

The Brightwork Research & Analysis website has the message box in the lower-left corner—most requests for free information come from Indians. We added a message that the comment box is not for free requests for information — and Indians ignore our message and ask for free information. In any case, again, when an Indian reaches out or speaks, it’s best to ignore that Indian.

Observation #4: Indians are Hopelessly Corrupt

When Indians are gatekeepers, they want to direct resources to other Indians. In many cases, Indians are not satisfied with their employment; they must find a way to rig the interior orientation of their employer to benefit them in corrupt ways. Any company with Indians in its procurement department will have mass corruption in its purchasing.

I cover this article in The Problem With Indians as GateKeepers for US IT Purchases. 

Making Adjustments in The Continual Fight Against Indians

Over time, we have made the following adjustments to deal with Indians properly.

Adjustment #1: Reacting to an Indian Email or Message

If we receive an email or a comment on the website from an Indian, we ignore that email. The message will invariably be asking us to do something for free for them. The same goes for LinkedIn invites. Indian invites get ignored. I recommend that others follow this same approach and pretend that Indians do not exist, at least to the degree that it is possible. Some say that this treats Indians as if they do not have humanity. And my answer to this is yes.

Adjustment #2: Preparing for Indian Conversations

In conversations, if one is compelled to speak to Indians it is essential to give Indians false information. One cannot provide 100% false information, but strategic or obscured information can be falsified. Remember, no ethical rules should be followed as Indians do not have ethics and are engaging in a conversation with you to take something from you.

It is important to remember that Indians are waiting for you to say something that they can use. They are probing for a weakness.

Adjustment #3: Dealing With Indian IP Theft

Indians have no historical experience with respecting the IP of others. For Indians, IP is something for them to steal. We installed a plugin that prevents copying text — and we did this to stop Indians from using our IP. However, we later also found that Chinese, both Chinese and Chinese that have immigrated, do not have respect for the IP of others either. Someone from China translated an article we wrote and placed it on their website. Again — they never contacted us.

This also recently happened with a Pakistani website. India, China, and Pakistan blame their problems on European powers, even though they benefited from these interactions. Cheating is synonymous with being Indian.

This is not just an Indian/European/white issue. Indians prefer to cheat whites, as they are easy targets coming from a high-trust culture. However, we now have many people of all races in both the US and around the world reaching out and providing examples of where Indians have discriminated against them. Indians will cheat anyone they can, and of course, in India, their target is other Indians. However, Indians find it easiest to cheat whites.

Conclusion

I recommend to all domestic US IT workers who deal with Indians that they implement controls for sharing information with Indians. For us, blocking Indians has saved us a lot of time and also led to an improvement in our life satisfaction. If you make it a focus to sideline Indians, it’s possible to improve your life and enhance your mental health.

The first step is to attribute mal intentions to not just some Indians but all Indians. We tried being selective and ran into the same problems with what we thought were “good Indians” versus “bad Indians.” The primary difference is that it took longer for “good Indians” to show themselves — whereas “bad Indians” were more transparent about their desire to steal from us. I cover this in the article Should You Try to Find Good Indians While Risking Bad Indian?

Remember, Indians do not deserve your time, the information you have, assistance, etc.. No one owes any Indians anything, and any person will be enriched by eliminating or minimizing their interaction with Indians.

Indians Believe in the Right to Take Advantage of Others

Indians have a sense of entitlement that is extraordinary and persistent. It means that Indians feel they have the right to take advantage of other people. Once caught, they will typically either complain about the forceful response as being “unprofessional,” or they will accuse the person who caught them of being racist.

There is no way to win.

As explained in the movie War Games regarding nuclear war — the only way to win — is not to play. This same thing applies to Indians.

Indian IT Survey Results

To see our ongoing survey, which includes graphs of responses and specific comments from domestic workers all over the world who have had to work with Indians, see the website indianitsurvey.com

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